An Exorcist Tells His Story by Gabriele Amorth
Posted by Darryl Sloan on October 15, 2007
You could say that people belong in one of two categories: they either believe in God, or they don’t. But let me add a third category: those who say they believe in God, but get uncomfortable or embarrassed at the mention of anything remotely supernatural. These people require the Flood to be rendered as a myth or explained by meteorological means. Likewise with the fire that rained from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah. To them the idea of demons as actual beings is preposterous. This third category is a wishy-washy form of Christianity that probably comes about as a result of pressure from the intellectual atheist majority, and as a vain attempt at keeping some degree of credibility in their eyes. The thing is, if a person believes in God, it is perfectly logical to grant God permission to bend or break the laws of the universe that he set in motion. And since we’ve already accepted the existence of a being who lives beyond what we can see and touch, it’s hardly inconceivable that there are other entities in existence outside our perception of what consistutes reality: angels and demons, for instance.
You can tell what group I belong to. I wrote the above paragraph because what this book is essentially trying to do is raise awareness of a crisis in the Church. This general lack of belief in the supernatural side of Christianity means that exorcisms are rarely performed today, despite the fact that the Bible clearly depicts Jesus and his disciples freeing demon-possessed people. It’s perhaps a little odd that I’m reading this book, since I’m a Protestant, and the book is written by a Roman Catholic priest. Well, I was interested in reading about demons, not for amusement, but because the Bible says so little about them. I was also curious to step into “enemy territory” and see if all the Protestant anti-Catholic propaganda is justified. It’s not. For the most part, I felt a kinship with the author; on most spiritual matters, we were on the same page. I was especially impressed with the opening chapter entitled “The Centrality of Christ,” although I remain completely baffled by the way that Catholics venerate Mary.
Contrary to such films as The Exorcist, real demons apparently do not talk much. It is, after all, to their advantage to remain undetected. Other topics, such as demon oppression, witchcraft, curses, etc., are also covered in the book. Amorth’s account of his experiences with demons are fascinating and believable by anyone who already accepts Christianity. And the stories are presented in a completely non-sensationalist manner. The book is written not for the titillation of the public, but as a wake-up call to fellow priests. Amorth maintains that there are many people out there who are needlessly suffering, people who have gone from doctor to doctor on a fruitless search for a physical cure to a spiritual ailment. The author is also careful not to downplay the arena of medicine, and he stresses the importance of being able to differentiate demon-possession from genuine mental disorders.
I realise that in reading this book, I’m stepping outside of the Bible - outside the one and only source for Christian belief. Well, Roman Catholic beliefs and practices are built upon two thousand years of tradition. Not so with us Protestants. We hang onto the Bible alone. So I’m not sure how much credence to grant this book. I can’t prove much in it. I can’t back it all up with Scripture references; all I can say is, it’s compatible with Scripture. My gut reaction is that this is an honest book written from the direct experience of a level-headed Christian. It should not be placed on bookshelves among all the hauntings and UFO accounts and other sensationalist “true” stories written for profit.

October 15, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Excellent post. As a Roman Catholic I decided to study up on the subject myself and I discovered more about Christ, why he allows such things to occur, and ways that I can prevent such things from happening in my life. Fr. Amorth is a great Priest, Exorcist, and teacher. A person can learn many things from him. Another noted exorcist who studied with Fr. Amorth is Father Fortea, google him if you are interested in more knowledge on this subject. Also Amorth wrote another book called “An exorcist tells his story: more stories” I would highly recommend you to read that book as well.
Pax Christi on your journey!
Michael
October 15, 2007 at 4:29 pm
Darryl,
Praised be Jesus Christ — now and forever!
As a Catholic, I testify that Christ is central. Sadly, you are baffled by Mary and traditions because you are divorced from history. I claim that the Catholic “Tradition” is the fullness of what Christ taught and gave to the apostles, who in turn gave to all peoples for all generations, which includes the Bible.
You are an intellectually honest writer, which I appreciate. If you come to understand the history of Christianity, then you will understand Catholicism. Perhaps you won’t agree with it, but at least you won’t be baffled.
I pray that you remain happy and well.
Damien
October 15, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Michael:
I think you must sell cars. Fr. Fortera & Father Fortera brought up
pages of car, etc. ads. More info needed. Thanks J.
October 15, 2007 at 5:11 pm
As a convert to Roman Catholicism from an Evangelical Protestant background, I can tell you why we venerate Mary. When God asked her to do the unthinkable, to become an unmarried, pregnant teenager, a fate punishable by stoning in her time, she said, “Let it be done unto me according to Thy word.” This total willingness to do whatever God had planned for her, even unto death, is something we all should try to follow. In addition, she was the first disciple…the first to recognize the divinity of Jesus. She followed him from his conception to his death and resurrection, even when his chosen Apostles ran in fear. For this, we ask her to pray for us just as we would ask any other Christian friend to pray for us. She is the mother of the King, the “Queen Mother.” She has his ear, probably more closely than any other person that ever lived. He is central in our lives, the Redeemer of the world, the source of our being, worthy of all worship and praise. But she is the best example of how a human Christian should live, pondering all things in her heart.
As for your belief that we don’t follow the Bible, I have to say, having been on both sides of the line, there are few people more biblically centered than Catholics. Read, “An Introduction to the Church Fathers.” It might help you to understand the history of the Church from the time of the apostles until today.
I would also tell you to attend one Catholic Mass before you believe the Anti-Catholic rhetoric out there. One should not condemn that of which one has no knowledge or experience. Those people who propogate anti-catholic hate have never bothered to set foot inside a Catholic church, relying instead on what others have told them. You won’t burst into flames and you won’t see people worshipping statues or the Devil.
God Bless You Brother!
October 15, 2007 at 5:48 pm
I have long thought protestants are ‘baffled’ by catholic veneration of Our Blessed Mother because they believe She can’t do anything for them, so why bother with Her, we don’t have to honour her … so we won’t.
Jesus on the other hand He can do so much for us, like give us everlasting life … Oh we LOVE Jesus. Perhaps Our Lord will one day ask ” I can understand
why you didn’t send My Mother flowers, but why did you resent others from doing so”
October 15, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Help me to understand Protestants. Where in the Bible does it say “the Bible alone is to be the only source for faith”?
Tom
October 15, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Dear Mr. Sloan,
Thanks for your book review, but I don’t understand your comment: “we hang onto the Bible alone.” Did the Bible just come out of nowhere? I was taught, but correct me if I’m wrong, that in approximately the fourth century a group of Catholic Bishops met at a council and selected the 27 books of the NT. Apparently this group of Bishops rejected many other writings claiming to be inspired. In other words, it was the Church that selected the books of the NT (under the guidance of the HS) - the same 27 books we all still use today.
In fact, Protestant terms like Bible only or faith alone don’t even appear in the Bible. On the other hand, the Bible teaches that the Church is the pillar of truth (1 Tim 3:15).
Frankly, it is impossible not to have an interpretive tradition,
whether Catholic or Protestant. That is why there are so many
Protestant denominations: they all have their own traditions.
Keep in mind that Jesus chose apostles to form His church, and handed authority over to them to build the church.
The tradition of “Bible only” came out of the Protestant Reformation. It is not found in the Bible or prior to the Reformation. It is a tradition started by Luther, and based on his own private ideas.
But if God guided the Catholic Bishops to choose the 27 books of the NT, would you not think that he would continue to guide that same Church found on the rock of Peter - the church that gave you the NT?
Tom
October 15, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Hi. I am a Roman Catholic. I just wanted to say a few things in light of the notes left by others. First, I congratulate the author on his understanding of the supernatural and demonic. Secondly, there is a bad rap by protestants for Catholics. I used to be one. However, there are many reason that have justified their misunderstanding. The human element of the church has at times made many mistakes, as will any human-run organization. A problem is the lack of humility by said element in accepting these mistakes. Another problem is the way Mass and our tradition are being slowly torn asunder. However, there is a tradition there, and while there may be errors made within the human element of Catholicism, the faith itself is infallible.
Heather had it right about the Blessed Mother. She is an example to us all, and her love for us all is as perfect as a human being is capable of. We ask her to pray for us as you would ask your Christian friends to do. She, being such an example of a follower, lover, and student of Christ, does has a special place in the heart of Jesus our Lord. Just look to Luke 1:45-55 for an account of her faith and loyalty to God, and pay special attention to verse 48.
October 15, 2007 at 6:38 pm
I dont know much about Christianity but I like the post.
October 15, 2007 at 7:32 pm
I addition to what others have posted concerning honoring Mary, I would just like to add my two cents. Honoring our parents is part of the Ten Commandments. Since Mary is Jesus’ mother, he would either have to honor her or break the Ten Commandments. If the Scriptures say the Jesus is without sin, then it goes to follow that the never broke the Ten Commandments. It is that simple. If Jesus’ honors Mary, then honoring her can’t be wrong. Since we are all brothers and sisters of Jesus Christ and members of his body, it goes to follow that Mary is our mother too. So, we must honor her as part of keeping the Ten Commandments. God bless you.
October 15, 2007 at 8:17 pm
To get a better understanding of the Catholic Mass and how it came to be structured, read ‘God is Near Us’ by Pope Benedict [then Cardinal Ratzinger]. It is a good read for Protestants and especially Catholics as many Catholics do not appreciate the great gift of the Mass. The auther gives historical facts for its formation of Catholic Liturgy and how Luther erred in his reasoning which has passed on to other Protestants. There were two break offs from Catholicism: Luther and Church of England. All other protestant churches resulted from these break off and were not direct break-offs from the Catholic Church. Also visit the Coming Home Network http://www.chnetwork.org/ This website provides help to protestants with questions about Catholicism and introduce them to other protestants who have made a full circle and returned home. St. Paul was converted because he truly was seeking the truth and believed he was upholding truth in his persecution of the early Christians. So Mr. Sloan I invite you to discern further and be open to the promptings of the Holy Spirit. God bless you.
October 15, 2007 at 8:34 pm
All I can say to people who resent honoring the Blessed Mother is to meditate and ask the Holy Spirit about this issue in their hearts. Surely protestants believe in the Holy Spirit, then let the Holy Spirit be their guide. Enough of these rhetorics. Love in your heart will guide you to the will of God.
Love and peace to all.
October 15, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Thank you for the very insightful review of Father Amorths’ book. I liked it as well. I am impressed with your intellectual openess, as you were willing to give credit where credit is due, in spite of coming from another faith tradition. I had two thoughts to share. First of all, if Mr. Sloan, you accept the possibility of God bending or breaking the laws of the universe, what we would term a miracle, then you can also imagine that when it came time to find a fitting human Mother for His only-begotten Son, Our Father would perform a miracle. This one a miracle of creation, a woman without stain of original sin, to be the worthy receptacle of His Incarnate Son. Seeing my own common sinfulness I know this is only reasonable as none of us women, without a special gift of grace from God, could ever be capable of bearing the God-Man. She is God’s greatest human creation, not because of her, but because of Him. That’s why we love her, venerate her,(thank you for using the correct term) and honor her. She is the first Christian. She is our Mother as she is yours. Our Lord gave her to be our (Spiritual) Mother when he “gave” her to Saint John (John 19:26). She is the Woman spoken of in Genesis(Gen. 3:15),the Woman spoken to in Saint John’s gospel(John 2:4) and the Woman referred to in revelation (Rev. 12:1). She loves you! Love her back!!
October 15, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Wow! Where did all these comments come from? I’m guessing someone mentioned my review on a Catholic forum somewhere. Thank you all for dropping by and taking time to comment. I’d like to address a few misunderstandings.
On the veneration of Mary: perhaps I could have phrased my confusion better. I’m certainly not against honouring her. I just don’t understand the role you give her now, today, in her afterlife. I find the notion of praying to anyone other than God (whether Mary or saints) strange. God, after all, is the only one who is omniscient, and therefore capable of hearing prayer. Mary, a human woman, does not possess such an attribute.
On Catholics and the Bible: someone misunderstood my statement about Catholics following two thousand years of tradition. I meant two thousand years of tradition in addition to the Bible, not instead of. Protestants do not accept Church tradition on an equal footing with the Bible, i.e. the Bible is the only divinely inspired work.
Someone asked why Protestants only accept the Bible alone. I don’t have a good answer. I don’t know why Protestants believe that the New Testament was God’s final and complete revelation. It’s not a notion I hold to with any great conviction. How can any man say definitively that God will never raise another prophet to speak his words?
My best friend is a Roman Catholic. He became one out of an agnostic background. He has gone a long way to mellowing my view of Roman Catholicism, although I never subscribed to the more hardcore forms of Protestantism in the first place. This summer, I accompanied him to a Mass for the first time. I didn’t participate, of course, but I observed. An interesting and enjoyable experience. The real bone of contention is, of course, the nature of the bread and wine. I don’t want to get into that here, and I don’t have clear views on it, anyway. But what I will say is that the whole experience was much more conducive to worship and contemplation than a typical Protestant church service.
Again, thanks for your comments, everyone. This response may provoke further debate, but I would really rather avoid that, because I know we’ll be opening a real can of worms that will take an age to work through.
(If anyone is interested, the Christianity category on my blog has a few more reviews of Christian books.)
October 15, 2007 at 9:34 pm
to try and keep this huge issue as simple as possible I would like to point out that honouring the memory of Mary is obviously good and proper. The problem arises when Catholics or anyone starts believing that Mary is able to provide answers to prayer. This is obviously an open door to the satanic realm and demonic manifestations are bound to occur- like the teenager in benoni, south africa, who during her by now famous visions of mary was instructed to entreat fellow devotees to gaze into the sun in order to receive enlightenment. We now have several more physically blind people to pray for as a result. Mary died a natural death. She is not YHWH. Enoch who was taken away in chariot of fire was never mistaken for God. The root of this problem lies in church manipulation. Capture the female heart and you capture her male devotee. Feminism prefers a female deity. When we perceive the truth in humility we can no longer be manipulated. Padre Peo realised this. Thats why he was subjected to such demonic oppression. Being catholic is not the problem. Being stiff-necked is.
October 15, 2007 at 9:48 pm
Where did the Bible come from? From who’s Authority? To accept the Scriptures without accepting the Authority of the body that presents it to us (The Catholic Church)is illogical. Study the Fathers, and the Early Councils, they will show you the Catholic Church.
October 15, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Hi,
No Mary
No Jesus
Know Mary
Know Jesus
Jesus IS God!
John
October 15, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Dearest Friend in Christ,
“When he comes, the Spirit of Truth, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you. Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you” (John 14:16-17,26; 15:26; 16:7-15).
We truly have the Truth, whole and entire, in the Roman Catholic Church…no worries about who is teaching what, who is changing what law, who is starting another church… Please go before the Blessed Sacrament and ask Jesus if He is there…He will answer you!! I just know you will convert one day! God bless you and that great review of Father Amorth’s book. In His Love, Connie
October 15, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Interesting discussion, folks. Of course, Mary is not God, but Catholics believe she intercedes for us when we pray to her. Of course, we could pray directly to God and we do, but she certainly has his God’s ear. One only has to recall the wedding in Cana when Jesus asked his mother what she would have him do when she told him the wine ran out (she responded by telling the waiters do as he tells them). And there’s the many church-approved miracles such as Fatima that shows her as being the “woman clothed with the sun.”
I would recommend Protestants read a century-old relatively short book titled “Where We Got the Bible” by Henry Grey Graham, a former Scottish minister who converted to Catholicism. It can be read online for free at: http://www.geocities.com/militantis/biblecontents.html
Mr. Sloan’s foray into a Mass reminds me of Scott Hahn doing the same thing. Hahn was as rabid an anti-Catholic as one could be before he went to a Mass and took notes from the back of the church. What he found was something entirely in communion with the panorama of the New Testament. He has since converted to Catholicism and is one of the church’s most brilliant theologians. Google “Scott Hahn” and you’ll turn up a treasure trove of wisdom.
Two other sites I invite Protestants to explore: http://www.catholicreport.org and http://www.biblechristiansociety.com. The latter site has a link called “Newsletters” that’d call up interesting and informative exchanges between Catholic apologist John Martignoni and Protestant readers. The former posts a half-dozen Catholic-related news with informative commentaries by the site’s host, Dave Hartline.
October 15, 2007 at 10:51 pm
P.S. Mr. Sloan, I enjoyed your review and thank you for it. I had recently purchased another of Fr. Amorth’s book and look forward to reading it soon after finishing “Tower of Light” by Catholic author Michael Brown, whose Web site, http://www.spiritdaily.com, I also check out regularly.
October 16, 2007 at 12:28 am
Now if you really want to come into the Heart of the Father through the love of the United Hearts - Jesus and His Blessed Mother please read the messages at http://www.holylove.org. Evil is being revealed, Hearts are being convicted, and people are loving God and their neighbors more.
October 16, 2007 at 12:41 am
Great comments!
Great questions on the spiritual nature of humankind.
I came from a family of seven.
My spouse and I are raising a family of eight.
It is reassuring and comforting for each and every child ever born to know that there is Mother and Father, tending and nurturing. Each has a unique role in parenting a child.
When one is not present, it is very noticable for the child,
usually a sad spot. I’m glad Heavenly Father was kind enough to
give us a most wonderful Mother-His very own-
to help us on our spiritual journey to Heaven.
…God love you.
October 16, 2007 at 1:07 am
Mary says in Luke 1 that her soul magnifies the Lord. That is, her soul makes Jesus clearer, larger, and more in focus, and that is a great thing indeed, especially since her soul is still very much alive.
Elizabeth, also in Luke 1, says that Mary is blessed among women. That would make her holier than my own mother and my own wife.
In Revelation 11:19, St. John says that he sees the Ark of the Covenant, and in the following verse, he describes it as a “Woman clothed with the sun”. Since Mary’s womb contained the Word made flesh and the bread from heaven, just like the Ark of the Covenant contained the Word and manna, that makes her the Ark of the new Covanant.
Eve’s yes to lucifer enabled sin to enter the world. Mary’s yes to Gabriel allowed salvation to enter the world. Eve is the physical mother of all of the living, and Mary is the spiritual mother of all of the living (Rev 12:17). Eve came out of Adam, and Jesus came out of Mary.
And that’s why Catholics venerate Mary.
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October 16, 2007 at 1:28 am
This is a comment pertaining to the subject of Fr. Amorth’s book…
Anyone who rolls their eyes at the suggestion that there is a REAL Satan and that possessions and exorcisms are REAL should read this book, as well as the follow-up volume, “An Exorcist: More Stories”. As someone who has had a member of my family go through the horrifying experience of demonic oppression (at the very least), followed by an exorcism, I can assure you that this is all very, very real.
October 16, 2007 at 1:32 am
Well, the Bible - or at least the New Testament - is the authoritative writings of the Apostles, those who later wrote down what the Apostles told them, and those the Apostles dictated to/through, as the Apostles - in the BC era, were the mouthpieces of Jesus. As such, the New Testament is the whole of Apostolic teaching, and was recognized (as genuine, apostolic, and authoritative) as such - with little disagreement - by the early church long before anything resembling what we now refer to as the ‘Roman Catholic’, with popes, saints and liturgy, church came into being. The Old Testament was the writings of the ‘Prophets’, God’s mouthpiece in the period prior to Christ, recognized as authoritative by the Hebrew people. So, both texts were authored by God’s mouthpieces and the authority, rather than being given by His people, was recognized by His people. That’s how we got, and why we revere the Bible. When the Apostles (who were handpicked from those who personally saw the risen Christ in the flesh) passed away, there was no more Scripture to be written. Even when the Bible speaks of ‘prophets’ in the New Testament, the sense of the Greek word for ‘prophet’ is so different from the Hebrew word used in the Old Testament that it’s likely the gift is quite a different one (as in the OT it was the ‘office of prophet’ and in the new the ‘gift of prophecy’ - something is different). Anyway - with no authoritative spokespersons/mouthpieces of God, how could we have modern scripture?
p.s. - I have many Catholic friends and relatives, and believe most to be saved. I hope my disagreement on matters of the origins of Scripture don’t lead anyone to any other conclusion.
blessings
October 16, 2007 at 1:46 am
The canon of the bible was first put together at the Council of Rome in 382 by Pope Damasus. Subsequent 4th century councils of the Catholic Church at Carthage and Hippo verified both the OT Canon and the NT Canon. A total of 73 books were considered to be scripture, until the 16th century when Luther threw out 7 OT books that were not originally written in Hebrew, but in Greek, just like the NT books were.
October 16, 2007 at 2:01 am
Hi there, as a Protestant exposed to (but not steeped in) anti-Catholic notions for years, I can concur with petercoch’s comments. The Chick Tract meme goes, statues of Mary cry because Mary is sad that people pray to, honour and worship her instead of Jesus!
A lot of Protestants and Evangelicals consider Roman Catholics unsaved because of various factors - exalting Mother Mary to a level close to idolatry, prayer to the saints, veneration of statues (which looks like genuine idol worship), doctrines of salvation not by grace alone but with works and sacraments, a purported lack of a personal relationship with Jesus or God, etc.
I don’t necessarily agree with all the above either way. That aside, what I wanted to share was my father’s personal testimony of Protestant-style exorcisms (more precisely, Baptist). I shall retell one that I remember clearly.
My dad was in New Zealand for his university education. He had already been to seminary. There was a frat-boy party that he was invited to, which he attended out of frindship and avoided the booze.
Late into the night, one guy started acting all weird and zoned out. He was creeping out even the tough NZ rugby players. One guy from Malaysia said to my dad: “Hey, you know what… I think he’s possessed.”
My dad asked, “Well how do you know?”
“My aunt does lottery predictions for a fee. Every time she wants to make a prediction, she goes into a trance like that.”
(Lesson to us all - supernatural stunts almost invariably involve demonic possession. I used to have a neighbor who could predict lotto numbers incredibly well, at the cost of scary nightmares for my family every night. When we realized what was up and prayed to rebuke the evil spirits, the neighbor never predicted another winning number again.)
Well, my dad told everyone who was still hanging around that it was time to go home, he’d handle the freak-out guy himself. As no one wanted to be near the dude, they were happy to oblige.
So my dad prayed over the possessed fellow, sang hymns, commanded the spirit to come out in the name of Jesus. Friend whose aunt is a lottery-predicting medium also stayed around to help out in case the guy got violent, as some possessions get.
The spirit was stubborn, refusing to let go of the guy. Instead, he’d insult and joke with my dad. Dad just kept it up.
At one point, dad called up a pastor he knew to come and lend a hand. This was well past midnite btw. Well, the pastor came and saw the guy - who was acting normal now - and said that there wasn’t any problem, then left. The possessed guy, of course, went back to his antics as soon as the pastor’s car drove off.
But my dad kept it up. Several times, the guy would suddenly act calm, and claim that he was okay! No more possessed! You can go home now. But to be sure, dad kept up the prayer, and after a bit the spirit would lose patience and drop the calm act.
Dad kept it up until almost dawn. Then he felt as if a breakthru had happened. The guy lay down and fell fast asleep. But to be sure that the ordeal was finished, dad prayed for a sign from God, a very specific sign - his young wife (i.e. my mum) would send a letter to him from Malaysia, and it would reach him today.
And it did, that very morning, from the postman who was the first person to visit the apartment where the exorcism took place. Halelujah!
When the guy came to after hours of sleep, he didn’t remember anything. Just that before he lost awareness, he heard/felt a presence ask him to let it in. Being clueless about spiritual matters and (in his mind) a brave, dare-to-try dude, he said yes. Which started the whole mess.
And that’s what most exorcisms are like. Just a battle of patience and faith, often as simple as praying over a room to chase out a presence that’s been bothering baby and making him cry every night. No levitation, no buckets of puke (though these have been reported to happen), but definitely lots of freaky behavior, voicing and often unnatural strength!
Hope my sharing has been meaningful. I testify that it is true, as far as my memory can be trusted! Amen.
October 16, 2007 at 2:11 am
This is a really interesting post. The comments are interesting too. Hang onto your Protestant faith, Brother. No matter what all the Catholics say in their veneration of Mary, it is totally unbiblical and Jesus Himself seems to warn against it.
However, to your point about honoring the Catholics, I am thankful you talked about it. Since Pope John Paul, the Protestant community has rightly advanced from their position that Catholics were AntiChrist (as the Lutherans historically believed) to their being part of the fellowship in Christ, whom we can learn much from. Their perspectives on the spiritual disciplines, in particular, are stunning–clearly you have found comraderie in their endorsement of the supernatural as well.
perhaps this is why the Catholic Charismatic Renewal was so popular as well. Deliverance, tongues, healing, and all sorts of supernatural phenomena have been well-guarded and defended by Catholic writers, so it would behoove all the supernatural haters (including those within the Protestant camp) to read some. Thanks for your insight.
October 16, 2007 at 2:11 am
RayL…
p.s. - I came to my views through a year long study of the canonization process where-by we read all of the early church father’s references of apostolic writings, canon, and other issues related to the formation of the New Testament. You are correct, there was a ‘pope’, however the Papacy referred to at such a time was QUITE different from what was to develop later. Thanks for the correction, though.
October 16, 2007 at 2:14 am
Have you checked out the book “Pigs in the Parlor” by Frank Hammond? It’s where I first learned about demons and deliverance ministry. It’s very good and even has some Bible in there. You can find it on this site.
October 16, 2007 at 2:20 am
This is an excellent post. I am totally interested in reading this book because I consider myself to have interest in the supernatural aspect of our faith. An interesting book on demons and how they interact with Christians is C.S Lewis’s “Screwtape Letters.” Granted this was fiction but I was actually able to follow it and understand that these are actual tactics used by demons when they are trying to break a Christian. Nevertheless, thanks so much for the review on this book.
October 16, 2007 at 2:35 am
Hi. Nice review of the book. A good website for Fr. Jose Fortea is http://www.fortea.us/english/index.htm. He writes the book Interview With an Exorcist by Ascension Press. http://www.ascensionpress.com/PressRoom/Exorcist.pdf
I think it is better than Fr. Amorth’s book as it is written in question and answer format for the non-literary person.
I actually met with Fr. Fortea (he is an exorcist from Spain) recently here in the states. He prayed with me and found there to be “external influences” around me………around my husband as well. It is just as they say: the demons are trying to destroy all who want to serve God.
Jesus, have mercy on us!
Susan
October 16, 2007 at 2:54 am
A friend and I go downtown witnessing, and I believe we’ve encountered people who are possessed (of course there’s no way to know for sure). The people we suspect will be in our face yelling as soon as they see us, spewing hatred and blasphemy. Almost all of them happen to be Catholic. Maybe praying to and idolizing a dead woman–Mary–is a good way to attract demons (aka necromancy).
I like to ask Catholics (and Christians, as there are many false converts) whether they’re born again (John 3:3).
Thanks,
Bill
October 16, 2007 at 3:11 am
We pray to the virgin Mary and the saints because we believe in “The communion of the Saints….” as we recite in the Apostle’s Creed when we pray. And because of that, we believe that the saints who had gone before us and who are now in heaven are the ones who relay our petitions and requests to God. These saints will be your ally to pray with you for your request. But it’s not imposed on any one. You could always pray directly to God…. Just that, the Catholic church thinks it’s better to have two or three gathered in prayer. ^_^ but anyway, thanks for your book review. I want to be able to buy that book too.
October 16, 2007 at 3:19 am
Outstanding post and commentary. THANK YOU to the Catholics who responded about Mary. I finally understand and it makes perfect sense. God Bless You.
October 16, 2007 at 3:50 am
Thank you for your excellent book review. I had read it a few years ago, when I really wanted to understand… ie know thy enemy.
I had an experience as a child with my best friend.. I went to church most Sundays and she had never been. I didn’t know much about God except that I loved Him and he loved me.. I was only 12.. but we were having a sleepover, and we started talking about school and stuff and she asked me about church..so I started telling her about my faith.. I guess like a child does; just simply. about God and Jesus and heaven.. I remember talking about it and being happy to share it. Like giving someone a great present.
Then literally all of a sudden both of us were aware that a dark force had entered the room. We had both seen a man standing in the shadow of the stairs. At first I thought it was my Dad, coming down to check on us.. but when I called it receeded.. and it was not him. It became chilly and we were suddenly shaking, afraid. It is strange, but I remember almost feeling like all the air had been sucked out of the room, like right before a bad thunderstorm..
I could not understand why, if I were talking about God and good things, that something bad would happen.. something to make us afraid. My Mom had Holy water in a bottle.. I don’t know why she kept it down there, but it was where we were.. so I remembered it.. Michelle and I clutched each other and I opened it sprinkling it all around the room and saying the Our Father (she didn’t know it). I then said, “In the name of Jesus I command you leave us.” After a few minutes the air became warm and scented with the most beautiful smell.. like a pure freshness of pine or a forest. Like incense, but none like I have ever smell before or since. We were also filled with a joy.. literally we sang Holy Holy Holy Lord. I taught her the words. We were so happy we did not want to go to sleep… we did not want the feeling to end. We kept it a secret until we were seniors in High School; and only then to some close friends who had messed with a ouija board. We had some strong advice for them about that. I never told even my parents until I was in my mid-20’s. Wow.. it was such a taste of heaven. I had still pondered why it had happened that way.. and I asked a close priest friend of mine.. and he said that when heaven is being opened to someone.. that their heart and mind are understanding.. that it infuriates the Devil and the demons. They literally tried to scare children. As an adult, the only thing I had read that was similar was the children of Fatima.. in praying for people’s souls, demons showed themselves to them as well.
Christians (and the Catholic Church/Catholics in particular) are always under attack. Most people would just rather keep their eyes shut. The Devil does love that. No challenge.
Was not the sex abuse scandal a call for Catholics to involve themselves more fully in their Church? To defend it (not the abusers) and love it? Sometimes you nearly have to lose it all to realize how much it means to you.
Catholics are born again in Christ everytime they receive Jesus in the Holy Eucharist worthily.
To all my fellow Catholics: in the general confession.. remember the words, “I confess to Almighty God, and to you my brothers and sisters, that I have sinned through my own fault. In my thoughts and in my words, in what I have done and in what I have failed to do….”
FAILED TO DO might possibly be bigger than the sins we have committed. How many lost opportunities to offer hope, encouragment… or just to stand up to the Devil. See it for what it is, and don’t blink. Next time you go to Mass, pay attention to the words.
I read through all the posts, and I hope that in being Christian, we are united, Catholics and Protestants in simply loving one another. I do believe that Catholics have the “fullness” of Faith available to them, but it is up to them to partake in it. Many Protestants live their Faith better undoubtedly than the “I was born Catholic” Catholics.
Catholic only means “Universal”, and in loving Christ and one another we should strive to be in agreement.
God Bless all who take part in this important discussion.
Jen
October 16, 2007 at 3:58 am
Will Riddle writes:
“No matter what all the Catholics say in their veneration of Mary, it is totally unbiblical and Jesus Himself seems to warn against it.”
Too bad you did not back that up with a quote–perhaps because you can’t (maybe you were thinking of people in the OT who worshiped a false goddess but that’s not what Catholics do).
Let’s see what the Bible actually says regarding the veneration of Mary: “Hail favored one, the lord is with you” and “Most blessed are you among women.” Gee, sounds a little like that prayer we Catholics say. If you want to convince us of your anti-Marian position, you’ll have to do better than that. Try addressing some of the excellent points made earlier by the Catholics in the blog (i.e. what about the Wedding at Cana; how do you square the protestant view of “Sola Scriptura” with the fact that the “scriptura” was put together by Catholic bishops, etc.).
By the way, I have heard Amorth speak and he is rock solid. He wrote a follow-up book on the same topic entitled “An Exorcist: More Stories.”
October 16, 2007 at 4:03 am
I would highly recommend that you read Evidence of Satan in the Modern World by Leon Cristiani.
October 16, 2007 at 4:05 am
I would like to post a comment on the first subject- do demons really exist.I believe that they do excist just as do Holy Angels, well we have also the Un-holy Angels. It can be difficult to tell the difference between the two at times to . As in that even Satan can come accross as a “Angel Of Light”.I also believe that bad spirits (aka demons) are responsable for a lot of the bickering, violence and what comes across as some mentel illnesses of today. We are in a battle ground of spiruital warfare, and here we are bickering about if we should ask Mary to pray for us. YES! we should ask her and anyone else that may be listining too. We must learn to put our religious differences aside and realize that we all need each other and each others prayers too. One day is comming soon when we will be glad to be in the company of any “Christian” person. I have witnessed evil entities jump from person to person and them not even be aware of it. Subtle changes in them can reveale it. One can be opressed by demonds and not be possesed totally. We all have a chance of being “under the influence” of a demon. we should all pray for each other plus ask all angels and saints to pray for us too. thank you.
October 16, 2007 at 4:16 am
Wellsme—-We could have grown up in the same household asI too had many experiences simalar to the one you just descibed. God Bless you and continue to protect you.
October 16, 2007 at 4:17 am
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October 16, 2007 at 4:20 am
Darryl Sloan,
Your getting so many hits b/c your site is listed on http://www.spiritdaily.com a Catholic news site that draws alot of people. Now all you need to get is featured on the drudgereport.com and you’ll be set!
Pax,
Michael
October 16, 2007 at 4:34 am
Boy us Catholics get riled up when defending our Blessed Mother.. but like her, let’s be gentle.
I once heard a simple story that may help explain her role in the Catholics of today..
A child comes home from school, proudly carrying a slightly cracked, multi-colored clay pot. (You know “”only a Mother could love.. yeah one of those)
It is his Father’s day present.. and he want to give it to Dad, right now.
Mom says.. hold on, go wash your hands and do your homework while I fix supper. So the kid does.
Mom fixes Dad’s favorite supper. She finds and box and some paper and they wrap the present. tie it with a bow. the kid draws a picture for a card.
Mom calls Dad for dinner.. then nodding to the child he presents his Dad with the Father’s Day present.
Do we not come to God, Our Father.. as a little cracked pot sometimes? It helps when our Mom helps us to present it in the right way, to be with us, guiding us along the way. She knows how proud, or full of sorrow or joy we are. She helps us to be patient. She loves us, because God loves us first.
Yes.. we do pray directly to God, Our Father.. but sometimes it helps if Mom is on your side too.
Mary is not a goddess, she was human. A fine example.. and one of the most bibcally based prayers is the “Hail Mary”. It is okay not to understand. But do not criticize what you do not understand.
Peace to all.
October 16, 2007 at 4:45 am
This book gives us a good understanding of how evil operates, but also the great mercy of our Lord.
to Billphillips:
To answer your question, yes I am born again, we are born again when we are baptized.
Regarding praying to the dead-you might check out Matthew 22:30.
Jesus is very clear on this point, God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. As Catholics, we believe that if we die in Christ, we will continue to live.
October 16, 2007 at 5:08 am
good Post Tony.
A few of the books of the Bible that Protestants miss is Maccabees (Intecessory prayer).. and Tobit (Archangel Raphael and the Demon).. I think Esther is another. All in all there are 7 books missing from the original canonical texts (aka Bible). My husband was Protestant.. and I was talking about Tobit.. and he had never heard that Bible story.. so it got us to looking at the differences. We thought maybe his King James was an odd copy, then we looked at a NIV…same thing. Until that point I did not realize there was such a big difference.. or what could be conceived as such. When “arguing” bibical points it is hard to do if the other guy has never seen it.
October 16, 2007 at 5:09 am
Hello Darryl,
You mentioned doubt regarding the Eucharist and I thought the following scripture might help. In John Chapter 6, 53 to 59, Jesus explains His body and blood, but a little bit at the end can easily pass one by. Jesus here refers to the manna from the Old Testament which their ancestors ate and still died. It is curious that after talking about His body and blood, Jesus makes reference to the actual manna. Manna would make no sense as a point of reference if the Flesh and Blood Jesus refers to were simply symbolic of scripture. Jesus mentions the manna to drive home the point that the Eucharist to come at the Last Supper and thereafter, through the Apostles, was indeed a bread from heaven.
Another way of approaching the Eucharist in a private and personal way is to visit a 24 hour Adoration Chapel.
October 16, 2007 at 5:14 am
My dad was a Nazarene minister, now in heaven, Catholic, I’m sure. I speak to him in heaven b/c through the Catholic faith tradition we believe that God grants saints a ‘beatific vision’ of everything happening on earth pertaining to them. So the saints in heaven *Dad* ….hear our ‘prayers’ (ok, its a bad term..they’re not actually prayers, but entreaties to pray for us) because God is good and they are in the communion of saints, the church TRIUMPHANT, which prays for the church MILITANT still on earth.
Oh, and as a former protestant, I justified my sin of abortion because ‘it wasn’t in the Bible.’ How weak is that? I knew in my heart it was wrong. But we can justify alot in God’s name, can’t we? For me, that disproves “THE BIBLE ALONE”. Especially because the earliest Catholic writing, called the “DIDACHE’ expressly forbade abortion. These ‘extraneous traditions of men’ prove trustworthy and helpful…when we can get past the religious spirit we have as being raised in our Nazarene or Baptist or Assembly or whatever church as the ONLY truth. God help us become little and receptive like the Christ who humbles himself to be born in a manger, in Bethlehem, House of Bread, and appears to us today under the SIGN OF BREAD in the Catholic Communion…
If you don’t believe it, go into a Catholic church, ask for the Tabernacle where the Bread is reserved,and ASK God whether he is present there. I dare you to listen for his voice. Be amazed. Be very amazed!
Grateful for my Nazarene upbringing..yet grateful more that I have the Catholic church now to help me draw closer to Christ…
October 16, 2007 at 5:14 am
Thanks for publishing your review. The posts are great too. I hope the words here will help unite all of us who are following our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in His Love. It seems like the demons have increased in power and strength in the last few years. I’m almost shocked over some of the things I’ve seen recently. Beware of the devil but keep your eyes on Jesus. Hang on to Him and do not let go! Peace be with you all.
October 16, 2007 at 6:02 am
Good post. Not sure if anybody already mentioned this, but this reminds me of C.S. Lewis’ The Screwtape Letters. Have you read it?
October 16, 2007 at 6:16 am
Two things,
As a former catholic, it was this sort of narrow-minded and pretentious thinking that drove me from my practice. You marginalize entire patterns of belief and call fellow Christians ‘wishy washy’ simply because they don’t agree with your world view. Are we all to believe that the bible is one hundred percent true if we are to be counted as Christians? What about the parts that are a bit extreme, or can easily be taken out of context? Should we, like Abraham, be prepared to sacrifice our own children if we think God has commanded us? What if we are mistaken? Where are we to draw the line between Christian and un-Christian?
Not every believers conception of God is the same, nor their conceptions of the bible. Catholics and Protestants have different views of faith and their practice of faith, but you said yourself that the “Protestant anti-Catholic propaganda” is unjustified. Open your eyes and realize that others might have different ways of believing in the supernatural and the events depicted in the bible, just as Catholics and Protestants have different ideas about which Sacraments are important.
Further, who is the “intellectual atheist majority” ? The United States motto, for one, is “In God We Trust.” Further, in 2001, only 14.2% of the population identified themselves as Atheist or agnostic, while 76.7% identified themselves as Christian. It may be convenient to blame troubles of faith on imaginary enemies, but just because some people think supernatural events are imaginary doesn’t mean they’re not real believers.
cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
October 16, 2007 at 6:38 am
nice entry
October 16, 2007 at 6:57 am
The review on Fr. Amoroth’s Book is excellent. It certainly fired up a lot of controversey among christians. Those of you that claim to follow “Only” the Bible and criticize how other christians worship, is that really an example of living the Word of God or are you just quoting what you think you know? The Command Of Jesus is to, ” Love one another as I have loved you and your neighbor as yourself.” Is that what we are doing when we argue sensely over religion? The example of Christian love is not in what we say, but in what we do with our life. Do We live what we believe? Let me clarify something about Catholicism, Catholics do not worship Mary, We love and honor Our Holy Mother because: She was chosen by the Father; She is the spouse of the Holy Spirit; The Mother of our Lord and Saviour Jesus. Christ gave her to us from the Cross, “Behold Your Mother.” The words, “Hail Mary” Pronounced by the Angel Gabriel, honoring Mary by announcing that she is blessed among women. The Word became flesh at Mary’s,”Let it be done to me according to your word. Throughout the Scriptures prophetic verses refering to Mary are quoted. In the New Testament we see witness to the love, veneration, and honor given to Mother Mary by the apostles and followers of our Lord Jesus. She is not elemenated in the four Gospels nor in the book of Acts, either. Catholic
christians are devoted to Jesus’ mother. We love and honor her as all thos who followed Jesus in the early days of the church. In reference to the statues and images of Jesus and Mary and the saints, let me ask you this, Do you carry pictures of your loved ones in your wallet and have them in your house? Do you worship those pictures or are they just reminders of those whom you love? Our sacramentals are a significance of our love and devotion to Mother Mary. she certainly is the cause of our joy, who is Jesus. The Immaculate Heart of Mary always points the way to her Son Jesus just as John the Baptist once prepared the way. At the Cana wedding they ran out of wine, A great embarrassment at a Jewish wedding, her intercession was sought and she said, “Do Whatever he says.” Jesus did not refuse his Mother that first miracle. Mary is the greatest creature in Heaven. She loves God perfectly. She is humility personified and has never refused God anything. The seven swords continue to pierce her tender, motherly heart as we behave like foolish children rather than followers of Christ. Jesus and Mary bring us together in Peace,it is the Evil one who causes division through spiritual warfare. Let us repentand unite in Prayer for the glory of our God.
October 16, 2007 at 7:42 am
“I am the Resurrection and the Life,” says the Lord (Jesus), “if anyone believes in Me, even if he dies, he shall live.” Does the Blessed Virgin Mary qualify? Was she a follower of her Son, did she persevere to the end? (to be saved?) You know the answer is yes to all of these. An honest and complete reading of Sacred Scripture tells you so. Therefore, she inherited the promises given to those who hear God’s word and keep it. She has eternal life.
and TO HIS APOSTLES = “Do this in memory of Me” Therefore when the Apostles obeyed Jesus command and “met daily for the breaking of the bread, the shared prayers, the teaching of the apostles and the fellowship”, essentially the Catholic Mass, the Holy Eucharist (at once a sacred banquet and a re-presentation of Jesus’ sacrifice on Calvary presented in an unbloody manner) … and they spoke the words of Jesus, invoking the power of the Holy Spirit, over the bread and wine, which truly and substantially became the Body and Blood of Jesus, for our spiritual nourishment and salvation … “He who eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood will live forever … for My Flesh is real food and My Blood, real drink … whoever eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood will have everlasting Life.” It says that some of his disciples walked away, because this saying was too hard for them to comprehend. Now, did He run after them, saying, ‘Hey, fellas, wait … I really didn’t mean it that way?’ I don’t think so … He turned to His apostles and said, “Will you also leave?” And what did Peter say? “To whom else can we go, Lord, You have the words of everlasting life.” Will you be one who walks away or among the ones who hear the word of God and put it into practice?
She was there at the beginning of Jesus’ Incarnation and gave her consent to God’s plan to redeem the world and save sinners. She suffered with her divine Son “a sword shall pierce your heart, that the thoughts of many might be revealed.” She endured with Him, she who stood at the foot of the cross while her only Son was cruelly crucified, suffered and died. (Tonight on TV, I heard a woman who was speaking about her son who died as a result of a car crash caused by a teen who was text messaging while driving … she said ‘you don’t know what it’s like, watching your son die before your eyes’ … I thought of Mary who watched her Son, innocent of any wrongdoing or sin, brutally treated and executed by evil men, to pay for our sins. Can you even try to imagine the pain she must have felt?)
After I accepted Christ into my heart at an altar call at an Assembly of God church outreach, they gave me a New Testament, I prayed and said, God where does this leave me with the Catholic Church?(which I had left as an unbeliever or agnostic years before). He gradually led me back in. But because of my Protestant friends ridiculing Catholic beliefs, I got down on my knees with my Bible, and begged God (at different times) one by one to show me the truth about our differences … about the Pope, about the Holy Eucharist, about Confession, about the Blessed Virgin Mary … and each time He showed me the foundation for Catholic belief in the Holy Scriptures (later on verified by official Catholic teaching) … but I was just going on the Bible and there was no question that when I beseeched Him from my heart, He showed me the answers. (I’m just giving you the first part of the Scripture … please read the whole passage yourself, after asking the Holy Spirit to enlighten you. Pope: “To you Peter, I give the keys of the kingdom …”, The Holy Eucharist: “This is My Body … This is My Blood (not a symbol, but “IS”
Confession: Again, He is speaking to His Apostles on Easter eve. (and those properly ordained successors), not just anyone, “As the Father has sent Me, so also I send you”. He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them. Whose sins you shall retain, they shall be retained.” What did Jesus do that got the scribes and Pharisees and high priests so angry?
He FORGAVE sins and in their understanding, only God could forgive sin, and Jesus was thereby making Himself equal to God, which was blasphemy to them and a capital offense, punishable by death. But Jesus was and is God (”the visible manifestation of the invisible God”, “God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God” …
the only Begotten Son of God, full of grace and truth). So those who pushed for His execution were wrong, they judged by appearances not the reality. Does and did Jesus have the authority to forgive sins? Absolutely, because He is God and He paid the price for our sins, to save us from sin and eternal death. Does/did Jesus have the authority and ability to hand on the POWER to forgive sins to His Apostles (distinct from His teaching on forgiveness when He taught the Lord’s Prayer … which is me forgiving you, your trespasses and you forgiving me, mine … but I can’t absolve you from stealing from Sam which is the power He gave to the Apostles and their legitimate successors.) The answer is YES, Jesus had the authority to forgive sin and He communicated that authority to the MEN, whom He left in charge, Peter, the Rock on which He built His Church, with the Apostles as the foundation. Why did He give that authority to MEN? So that very essential part of His ministry would continue throughout the ages to the end of time - the ministry of reconciliation (of man to God) in His Name and through the power of the Holy Spirit which He breathed upon His Apostles.
To Mary: I prayed on my knees, asking the Lord, “What’s my relationship supposed to be to Mary?” I’m not kidding …within 24 hours, if not minutes (I can’t remember exactly), my Bible opened up to the Scripture where Mary is standing at the foot of the cross, with the disciple/apostle “whom Jesus loved” and Jesus, in His final agony, says to Mary, “Mother, behold thy son.” And to John, He says, “Son, behold thy mother. And at that moment, he took her into his home and cared for her.” I knew that’s what God was saying to me … in direct answer to my question, asked from the heart. That Jesus had given His own Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, to be my own mother. Besides addressing John personally in that moment, John, also was standing there in the place of every Christian, and indeed every human being, but especially for the believer. “Will you, too, go away?”
Mary was there in prayer with the Apostles in the Upper Room on Pentecost when the Holy Spirit descended upon them. She who was already “full of grace”, was present with them as the honored Mother of their Resurrected Redeemer, at that moment when they were filled with the Holy Spirit. Many see this as the birth-day of the Church and hence Mary is known as Mother of the Church and Queen of the Apostles. The other moment also seen as the day the Church was born, was when Jesus’ side was pierced and blood and water (which cleansed and redeemed us, giving the Sacrament of Baptism it’s power, which also makes us children of God and part of His family and bringing us into the Communion of Saints and temples of the Holy Spirit) … Mary was standing there at that moment, also.
We can call on the Blessed Virgin Mary, for help and protection, because she is our Mother, and because of her complete and total union with her Son, Jesus Christ. In the garden after the Fall of Adam and Eve, God addressed the serpent, saying, “I will put enmity between you and the woman, between your seed and her seed. He will crush your head and you will strike at His heel.” In this union of The Blessed Virgin Mary and her Son, the only Begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ, through her cooperation in fulfilling the plan of God, the head of the serpent has been crushed. So she is not dead, she lives in Him, assumed body and soul into her heavenly reward, where we all hope to be. Just as I can ask you to pray for me, and you have the power to intercede for me because you are a believer and follower of Jesus, a fellow member of the Body of Christ, I can ask for her intercession, the Mother of Christ and His Mystical Body and it takes nothing away from God’s glory. In fact, it is part of the mystery of God’s plan and the economy of salvation that we can help each other in this way and she who was righteous in the sight of God, more than any created human person has been given through the Holy Spirit, great intercessory power with God on our behalf. “The fervent, effective prayer of a righteous man, availeth much.”
She did the Father’s will from beginning to end, she was preserved from the stain of sin from her conception, by the Father’s will and plan, to be a fitting vessel for the conception, gestation and birth of her and His Divine Son, the Incarnate Word of God, who is God, the second Person of the Blessed Trinity, and became man … fully God and full man, “like us in all things but sin.” The eternal Word of God took His flesh and blood from her, conceived and nourished in her womb. But because of the unity of these two natures, divine and human in the one divine Person, Jesus Christ, Mary can and is rightly be called the Mother of God. In other words, Jesus was not a split person, you can’t divide Him up, just so you can avoid calling His Mother, the Mother of God. That’s who she is and that glorifies God and takes nothing away from Him … “My soul magnifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.” God is Mary’s Savior, He redeemed her and made her holy beforehand in view of the merits that her Son, Jesus Christ would gain on the Cross. That is why God gave her the title, “The Immaculate Conception”, because she was immaculately conceived in her mother’s womb, due to the merits of her Son’s lifegiving, redeeming actions in His Passion, Death and Resurrection. How could the angel Gabriel have addressed her with the words, “Hail, full of grace!” if she weren’t already made holy in the womb? The baptism Jesus commanded His Apostles to perform to cleanse people from sin and to bring them into the Kingdom of God had not yet been established.
“All generations will call me blessed …” So, it’s okay. You can call her the Blessed Virgin Mary. You can call her the Mother of God.
And you can call on her in prayer, she will come to your assistance for she is your Mother. Jesus gave her to you/us on the cross. Why reject this great gift? Whatever Mary does for us, is done out of love, to bring us closer to her Son. Does any human being know Him better? And Jesus brings us into union with the Father, in the Holy Spirit.
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
October 16, 2007 at 8:24 am
Hello my dear friends in JESUS
May they be brought to COMPLETE UNITY to let the world know that YOU SENT ME
We are all poor sinners together…
We need THE MIRACLE OF THE UNITY to convert this world
Satan always divide
JESUS IS THE LORD of LORDS why are we not OK that JESUS crowned His MOTHER as QUEEN of HEAVEN and EARTH.
My country is BELGIUM we have a King and Queen..We will have very fun.
my revelation is;;
MARY ARK OF THE NEW CONVENANT
THE SIGN OF UNITY FOR ALL THE CHRISTIANS..She is THE full time gospel business women
wow;; I do my best GOD WILL DO THE
REST…I just need just 2 americans DARIN and ROBERT the mother is very wellknow in the CRR.. and this will be the sign that GOD will answer my poor prayer;;faith move mountains
and ALL WE NEED TO DO IS PRAY..
I Love you all
and GOD BLESS YOU
NICOLE DESLOOVERE
October 16, 2007 at 8:40 am
Oh, everyone - you’ve kept me awake reading. What wonderful posts - my fellow Catholics, you belie what so many not of our faith believe, that we don’t know the Bible!
Briefly, two books that I would recommend for further reading, one written at least 20 years ago and an excellent compilation of true exorcisms (performed via the Roman rite by Catholic priests) “Hostage to the Devil” by Fr. Malachi Martin. (Yes, he was a priest until death, released from his vows by Paul VI such that he did not need to be incardinated meaning enrolled as a diocesan priest under the authority of a Catholic bishop) but could (and did) perform priestly functions. He struggled to make a living until his writing took off, but after leaving Rome, lived and worked largely in New York City until his death.
Second book, “Four Witnesses, The Early Church in Her Own Words” written by a former Protestant (and new Catholic), Rod Bennett, about Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr and Irenaeus of Lyons. Believe it or not, there is a real phenomenon going on in the conversion of bucketloads of Protestant ministers to the Catholic Church, most of them independent of one another and as a result of incredibly courageous pursuit of Truth via study of the early Church Fathers. One of the posts above mentioned the “Coming Home Network” where the truth of this phenomenon can be pursued.
As a coworker of mine is fond of saying: “Life is fragile, handle with prayer!”
October 16, 2007 at 9:25 am
Hi. I’m a former Evangelical (25 years) now Catholic. I would like to comment on one aspect of Mr. Sloan’s querie that may shed light on the fact of why we catholics “pray” to Mary.
Most Evangelicals consider prayer to be worship. I think it might be more accurate to say that prayer is a form of communication. We communicate with Mary and the Saints as a form of intercession, much as a dear Protestant Brother will ask a friend to pray for him if he is sick. This communication takes the form of pra